Livejournal Purge

[ceredwensirius]

I have had issues with the way livejournal handles so many things, but none of them have made me want to leave livejournal for good. Until now. If a journal or community was not updated within the last 24 months, its gone. How much of fandom's history will be gone in one swoop? Think about all the journals that haven't been updated in years but they still have fic you love to read? There are literally too many for me to name.

I will not renew my paid account and take my business to dreamwidth and encourage others to do the same. Seriously, this is the last straw for me.







There was an edit apparently.

EDIT: Purging inactive accounts: One of the benefits of the work we've done to purge suspended accounts is that we will now be able to purge inactive journals and communities too--something you've been requesting for years! A journal is defined as inactive if it has not been logged into for 24 consecutive months and has only one post (i.e., the welcome post). A community is defined as inactive if has not been updated for 24 consecutive months and has only one entry and no comments.

The part in bold was not there before.

Comments

[ceredwensirius.livejournal.com]

This is a really interesting idea. It is late and I have to get to bed but I will converse with you some more tomorrow about this. I have one or two reservations on the basis of doing something with someone else's work. But I understanding the reasoning behind it.

[deathjunke.livejournal.com]

well i dont think we'd really be doing much other than saving the files, and if the author wants them of then so be it but honestly its a shame to loose all the fics and pictures.

goodnight sweet dreams ^^

[ceredwensirius.livejournal.com]

Okay, back from work, marginally not braindead. I'll admit quite freely that the desire to preserve fanworks, particularly when it can it can practically be assumed that the creator never intended to take them down, is crowding out most if not all of my reservations. But, for what its worth, here are my reservations. Once the fic and art is preserved (because I have no issue with that whatsoever) what happens then? Is it reposted somewhere, because that is where I start to have doubts about whether or not this is as good idea. There are some fantastic Sirius/Hermione authors like satinvalkyrie and rosie_rd73 who haven't touched their journal since 2006 that I would hate to see gone, and if livejournal hadn't done some quick backpeddling when the shit hit the fan they would have been gone. They have changed their mind now, and have said that if the journal has content it won't be touched.

I'm so paranoid about all this that I ljarchived hermionesirius. I don't know how to share that kind of file though.

Anyway, so those are my thoughts. I'm not comfortable with reposting another persons work and I won't tell you not to, but I can't help you pimp either. I'm just not comfortable. I've had my work reposted without permission and it was really awful not to have control over something I had created.

If reposting wasn't the plan though I'd love to hear more and would be glad to lend whatever support I can.

[deathjunke.livejournal.com]

Well when you put it that way I can understand the reservations.I wasn't intending on posting the fics but putting the fics into a zip file and having it availabe for.download or mailing to eachother like the franticbabbles pdf that's been floating about.

If you don't feel that this is okay then I'll take the com down. The last thing I want to do is make people upset or uncomfortable.

[ceredwensirius.livejournal.com]

The difference with the franticbabbles situation is that in order to get the file, you have to request it. It's not sitting out on the internet for anyone to nab. Having a zip file available on the internet is still a little iffy in my mind. It's a knee-jerk reaction, maybe, and it is only my opinion, after all.

Sweetie, don't take the comm down on my account. If this is something you want to do, then do it. I'm not chastising you or judging you in anyway.

I really don't have that many thinky thoughts on intellectual property rights. I'm just kinda offering my thoughts and thinking my way through this with you.

[deathjunke.livejournal.com]

I understand that but there are many like minded people out there if it makes one person uncomfortable i think it may make a few more people uncomfortable as well. what if
The completed archived entries are saved in the community's email and then people can request what they want to be emailed to them.

For example: A certain day could be picked to fulfill requests like for example all tof the weeks request can be filled on Thursdays. so who ever made a request in a comment to the community or the email (which ever is more convenient) during the week would receive an email with the pdf on Thursday.


btw you're a great sounding board

[ceredwensirius.livejournal.com]

I have to give this some more thought and my brain is really tired. This made more sense when everything was going away come August 1st, though I am still paranoid and don't trust livejournal.

Let me consider making a meta post that I will link to metafandom so that a discussion with fandom at large can happen. The possibility for backlash from fandom types that disagree and do so vehemently exists, I fear, and the last thing you'd want is for all of fandom to descend on you with knives. That never ends well.